Firstly I like going to France on holiday. I have met many very nice French people. This is not about the people of France. This is about the national attitude I know as ‘the French’. They should be beaten on sunday because, put simply, because they deserve a beating. This is about far more than a Rugby World Cup final. I am thrilled we are playing the French because it is time to get some payback. I am pretty sure I dislike ‘the French’ more than most Kiwi’s but I cannot speak for everyone. My mother in law is also French, yes, imagine!
I will tell you why I want us to destroy them at the weekend, after all it’s my blog, not a democracy.
Let us remind ourselves who ‘the French’ are. ‘The French’ were unable to defend their own borders against Germans and now they have a country littered with the bodies of dead New Zealanders. France has beneath its soil the highest number of dead Kiwi’s of any country on earth other than New Zealand. This includes Sergeant Dick Travis, VC, DSM, MM, Croix de Guerre (Belgium). New Zealands greatest ever soldier. New Zealand born soldiers and airmen won 17 Victoria Crosses fighting for France in two wars. Tens of thousands of New Zealand soldiers fought and died to liberate France, twice. ‘The French’ are ungrateful for this.
‘The French’ then largely invented what has become the EU to protect their own interests. They convinced a spineless British government to turn her back on her old friends and allies to cozy up to their new continental chums instead. This decision bought New Zealand agriculture and New Zealand on the whole to its knees for many years.
‘The French’ decided they didn’t want to test their Nuclear weapons in their own very large backyard and came down to set off Nuclear bombs in our back yard instead. When protestors set off to say “no thanks”. ‘The French’ sent state sponsored terrorists to blow them up in our harbour. The boat was bombed and a crew member killed. French Government agents committed the only act of terrorism on New Zealand soil. When we captured and imprisoned their agents, the terrorists, the French threatened an embargo on NZ exports to the EEC, this would have crippled the NZ economy. We had to let them go into French custody. The secret agents were put on a French holiday Island and shortly afterwards taken home and promoted in rank. The French had committed an act of war on New Zealand. The perpetrators sent to carry it out were promoted rather than punished on their return to France.
Read about it here.
That’s some of why I want us to beat ’the French’. Let’s move on to the Rugby. We won the World Cup in 1987. In 1991, we were beaten by a better Aussie side. 1995, we should have won but the All Blacks had food poisoning and sadly the Springboks at home, at altitude and with a fit team managed to nick a late extra time drop goal against an All Black side that should have been in bed. 1999 was effectively a home game for France. In front of a partisan crowd supporting the Northern Hemisphere team against the All Blacks, ‘the French’ were allowed to play their own game and it was a spectacular victory in front of a Twickenham crowd cheering them on. 2003 we were beaten by the Aussies in the semi, in their own back yard. Shame but it’s not the end of the world. in 2007 New Zealand turned up with two second fifteens and not a proper first fifteen, the ridiculous rotation policy. ‘The French’ once again had a home game under the closed roof of a Northern Hemisphere stadium. Cardiff rang to the sounds of French support and the All Blacks looked clueless.
Queue 2011. This is our place. ‘The French’ have had a woeful tournament. They have played like chumps throughout. Trounced once already by us. Beaten by Tonga. Only just overcoming the worst English side ever to leave blighty. ‘The French’ narrowly beat a heroic Welsh side with a man down and still they couldn’t score a try. That is before you even start talking about the sheer class of this All Blacks team.
There will be much talk this week of about how we must not underestimate a French side looking down the barrel. How they have nothing to lose and this will suit them perfectly. The All Blacks will not take ‘the French’ for granted and they certainly will not underestimate them. We will not be caught napping by some French miracle. This is time for New Zealand through our national sport to take the whip to ‘the French’ for what they have done to us and how they have treated us in the past. There will be no support for ‘the French’ from the uninvolved. Everyone wants to see ‘the French’ get a beating. There will be no audible Allez Le Bleu in Eden Park. ‘The French’ will enjoy their fine national anthem being sung passionately, we may even get some tears. There will be many tears by the end of the game. New Zealand tears that they have finally got the trophy that matters most. The best bit will be thrashing ‘the French’ to obtain it. ‘The French’ deserve the hiding of all hidings. An All Black storm is brewing and ‘the French’ are going to have a bad day on Sunday.
I’d love to have a chance to speak to the All Blacks before the game. If I could this is what I would say.
Bring on Sunday.
N.B Don’t take all ‘The French’ stuff too seriously ay. We love the French really (sort of). We Kiwi’s just need to give them a pasting in the footy to soothe our furrowed brows and exorcise our demons. Come on Black, lets see what you are made of. NO pressure really.
Update 23/10/2011 11.30 am UK time. PHEW!!! Well done France for coming to play. Have a good time in NZ and safe journey home. Well done All Blacks. Job done.
oldasiahand
October 17, 2011 at 9:50 am
Well said Sandy. You should win and all of England (at least those that care about rugby) will be behind you. We hate the Frogs too! Many of us also lost family helping those pathetic ingrates. And BTW, I prefer new world wines (especially NZ whites) to the over-rated and overpriced Frog rubbish.
sandysview
October 17, 2011 at 10:03 am
Thanks OAH. Its going to be a huge day. My older brother will be in the stadium and little brother lives in the rain shadow. You could see the way the All Blacks demolished the Aussies they just want at the French. As for French Wines? Pah. For reds Have a look at some of the excellent Hawkes Bay Bordeaux style blends, forget all the Pinot Noir rubbish. Best White of ours I have had, Trinity Hill Sauvignon. Not too fruity. very crisp.
mountainman
October 17, 2011 at 1:41 pm
If the new world wines are so good, why do they have to describe themselves as “Boredeaux style”? Surely proving that Bordeaux is still the reference marker.
True a lot of french wines are overpriced, but if you can afford them they are still the best in the world.
I admit I have drunk some wonderful “New World” wines but, sorry, none came close to a Montrose let alone a Cheval Blanc or Petrus.
yours from France
MM
ps I think you`re right about the rugby … not your reasons but the result.
sandysview
October 17, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Thanks MM. One must have a point of reference of course. The style is that of a Bordeaux wine. The best Bordeaux wines are of course the best in the world. When I evolve a highly sophisticated palate to be able to tell the difference between a £50 and a £500 bottle of wine I will try some of the really good stuff and when I am a multi millionaire who can afford £1000 plus a bottle for a triumph of branding over substance I might have a go at the likes of the Petrus or even a DRC as well. One has to have more money than creosus to pay for the highest quality French reds. I don’t. In the meantime I will enjoy the best I can get for under a tenner for more special occasions and around a fiver for day to day drinking. We are not trying to produce wines on order to the worlds millionaires. We are just trying to make a good quality wine for normal people to enjoy. Enjoy the rugby on Sunday and thank you for taking the time to comment on my blog. Cheers
Jwoo
October 17, 2011 at 10:25 am
This one is easier to comment on Sandy. It is difficult to argue against anyone who feels inclined to savage the French, but there are some things that need taking into account whilst you do.
1) Until shortly before the WW1, the Nation of France in terms of common language barely existed. The need for soldiers from all over France to communicate had a big impact on encouraging the common tongue. It has always been an insular country.
2) Until quite recently, in modern history terms, they still had thriving communities of Troglodytes.
3) The reason France as a country is still how it is, stems from the fact that the French are as they are. Obvious statement I know, but they keep it as they want it. Do the Brits for instance, get to do that?
4) If France, with nothing more than stubborn self belief and arrogance, persuades much of the rest of the world and the UK in particular to do her bidding when really they shouldn’t, who are the fools?
I’m afraid I despise my own successive governments for giving in to the French rather more than I blame the French for achieving by arrogance what they could not hope to by force.
Let’s face it, the French aren’t routinely rude or difficult because it’s you or me, it’s because that’s how they are. Until you get to know them one to one when they become much less troublesome, even when like me you are 3 parts deaf and therefore bloody difficult to communicate with.
I do wish they’d lose this kissy, kissy greeting style and man up a bit with handshakes. But I suppose that is more a continental thing anyway.
As for Rugby, I lost interest when our lot proved they were fearless at hellraising but pretty grim on the pitch. But it certainly wouldn’t hurt the French to be beaten, in the same way it wouldn’t hurt them to serve up some decent vegetables in retaurants now and again, but I don’t hold out any great hope for the latter anytime soon.
sandysview
October 17, 2011 at 10:41 am
Cheers Jon. Nice reply. I do concede the French very successfully give two fingers to any rules that dont suit them and the Brits obey and dot every i and cross every t of ridiculous Edicts from the EU. Its a farce. This though is about them and us. They are due a pasting from the men in black at a World cup. They will get it on Sunday.
william,
October 17, 2011 at 12:08 pm
French rugby,Serge Blanco, Patrick Sella etc were wonderful players.When I moved to Paris in 1975,I was rather shocked by the arson attack on a synagogue(in the XVI),but anti semitism is always there.Vichy France, all the myths of the resistance,remind me how many troops did the Germans need to control occupied France?Anyway,may the best side win,and can we have some open running rugby,please.
sandysview
October 17, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Thanks William, the French have had some truly great players of course, some great sides, this isn’t one of them. The best team will win and there will be an awful lot of running rugby. Expect some real fireworks from Izzy Dagg, Richard Kahui. Corey Jane, Nonu, Smith et al. They will be coming at the French so thick and fast they wont know which way to turn. It will be as spectacular as it will be brutal. The All Blacks want to win with style. Thanks for reading.
TDCJ
October 17, 2011 at 11:17 pm
…but a NZ – Wales final would have been so, so much better.
sandysview
October 18, 2011 at 8:13 am
TDCJ That is without question. There would have been a great big friendly atmosphere with fierce game of serious footy with lots of singing and beaming Welsh faces cheering their boyo’s on. Instead we will have a hostile cauldron. Its a great shame but I am pleased we get to get among the French.
Dave
October 18, 2011 at 9:13 am
Who cares?
The rugby world cup is an overrated, overhyped minor event for a minor sport.
New Zealander’s obsession with rugby rather embarrassing to say the least.
Probably more people watched the final of the Liverpool – Man U game on the weekend than either of the two rugby semi-finals, and possibly even more than what the numbers will be for the final next Sunday itself.
Really. Hardly anyone in the world even knows the RWC is on.
sandysview
October 18, 2011 at 9:46 am
Thanks for stopping by Dave, I appreciate that you took the time to make a contribution. We care, We care as much as you would if England got to a Soccer World cup final. I would be right there shouting for England. We love our Rugby and I will not aplogise for it. Im sure many more people will watch a big soccer game, me being one of them. You are allowed to watch both. I guess you wont be tuning in on Sunday morning UK time. Shame. It will be a big occassion. Thanks though for having a look. cheers
Jaycee Jougla
October 18, 2011 at 3:21 pm
It’s funny the misperception everyone has about the french . Keep insulting them and they will come back at you stronger . Regarding sunday , i have no doubt the french will win it thanks to all the insults and negative press they have received . You guys don’t seem to learn from the past . The french don’t hate you … They love the AB’s and you would see a lot of people wearing its black jerseys on the streets . The french don’t care about about winning the WC , they only care about beating the AB’s on their own turf … You know why ? Only because they are the only team they truly respect and love . It is as simple as that .
sandysview
October 18, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Jaycee thanks for the French point of view. Always nice to have a bit of balance. You miss the point a bit though. I am not saying the French hate us. Also This is not about the people of France, this is about ‘the French’ nation. I will defend passionately the French against people who criticise them for being rude or arrogant or any of the usual insults levelled at French People. The French are very good at looking after themselves. This is about the French indifference to and ill treatment of the New Zealanders. We are a little country that matters nothing to the French and has no impact of influence at all on your lives or culture or economy. The French nation though have had a massive impact on the lives and deaths of many New Zealanders and I will not forget her infdifference to that. The French threatened to destroy our economy when we wouldnt give her terrorists back. They deserved to rot in prison and they got medals instead. Some may forget that but certainly I won’t and this is my blog, not a democracy. We dont have much power in NZ but we have our rugby and I would like us to win on Sunday and send the symbol of the French in New Zealand, (her terrible rugby team) home with a deserved beating. I am sure the Frenchmen will come out all full of blood and thunder because they are feeling disrespected. As I said, this is my blog, these are my views and I doubt the Frenchmen will spend too much time agonising over any sort of justice or not. They will hopefully just want to win a game of Rugby. I am sure the Kiwis will enjoy the occassion and may the best team in the final win.
Ex Turret-Head
October 18, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Totally with you on this one Sandy. “Domination and victory is not enough. We must drive their woman and children wailing before us.” Genghis Khan, I think.
sandysview
October 18, 2011 at 10:59 pm
Ex Turret Head, love it! You boys and your stens in the old days! Cheers for popping by. I think we can give the women and kids a break. We arent philistines, or taleban. Just a simple Rugby lesson will do for me.
Bea
October 19, 2011 at 11:24 am
Nah – this is a bit mean I think.
NZ equivalents to hatey French things:
– Never mind Germans, we’re unable to defend out own borders against even a tiny little mite. Now our country is littered with the dead bodies of honeybees.
– The French invented the EU – we invented CER and punish ourselves with Australian apples.
– Thanks to the French avoidance of aerosol deodorants, the hole in the ozone layer has shrunk
– The French sent state sponsored terrorists to us only once. We inflicted Pete Hodgson on them at least three times.
I will of course be supporting the All Blacks on the big day, but hope to see heaps of French supporters there too.
sandysview
October 19, 2011 at 11:32 am
Good on you Bea. The world is littered with dead honey bees, that is not unique to NZ. I think most Kiwi’s still know a good apple when they see one, why would you buy a dusty aussie one? The French certainly don’t embrace aerosol deodorants. I will refrain from telling the old joke, “Where do you hide something from a Frenchman? “Under the soap”. oops too late it slipped out. Who is Pete Hodgson? What did he do?
I also hope to see heaps of French supporters there. Hopefully the ones who were laughing at us in 1999 and 2007. I hope they dont have so much to laugh about this time.
Nigel Birt-Llewellin
October 19, 2011 at 8:10 pm
You forgot to mention: the french (no need for a capital) managed to get a french referee to officiate against Wales ……………..
sandysview
October 20, 2011 at 8:19 am
Come along Nigel. He wasnt actually French. It is his father who is French, Sure he speaks fluent French and chats happily with the French, in French. I’m sure he was completely unmoved also by the French 14 lying on the floor acting as though he had been shot. Shame on the French 14 for play acting to get a man sent off and shame on the ref for buying it. It was a farce. Remember also Yachvili walking into Kaino’s elbow and falling screaming to the pitch in the All Blacks game. This crop of French players bring shame to the great French teams of the past.
Thomas
October 20, 2011 at 11:43 am
This is such a racist note! Full of cliches, a lot of wrong historic “facts” to “justify” your silly thoughts ( I like the way you chose only the facts to serve you theory and even twist them ( for exemple: France was against the UK to be part of Europe, NZ didn’t send any soldiers in France during world war II.. etc…) to make sure they fit your theory).
I could easily do the same things and “prove” you how bad the kiwis have been to the French (for example you did do the first act of war by sending a ship in a French military restriced zone,France import more than export to NZ… etc…) but let’s not as I don’t want to fall to your level.
And to finish on a rugby note have you watched the game in the pool stage? Don’t you think you got lucky not to be one man done + penalty try for illegal charge in the air after 10 minutes? No obviously because French are the cheaters, the evil ones and NZ are angels who deserve so much more…..
And before you asked I’m not French. I just love rugby and hate idot “common racist” with a brian full of cliches like you
sandysview
October 20, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Thanks Thomas. Firstly as English is your second language, let me define racism for you. ‘Racism is the belief that inherent different traits in human racial groups justify discrimination’
No-one is being racist here. I am not asking for discrimination. The French are a Nation, not a race. There are no twisted facts here. Just simple statements of fact. I did watch the pool game.It was great, there was no cheating. If you would like to draw my attention to any cliche I have used. Please do. Thanks for taking the time to say your view. Enjoy the rugby.
Thomas
October 20, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Ok let’s be a bit more specific.
You’re right it’s not racism it’s xenophobia but I’m not sure it’s much better.
1. “New Zealand born soldiers and airmen won 17 Victoria Crosses frighting for France in two wars. Tens of thousands of New Zealand soldiers fought and died to liberate France, twice. ‘The French’ are ungrateful for this.”
Wrong. NZ fought in the WWI to help the UK not France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_New_Zealand#First_World_War_1914.E2.80.931918)! In WWII NZ didn’t participate to the battle of France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_%E2%80%93_New_Zealand_relations#World_War_II). So technicaly NZ never thought to liberate France.
2.”‘The French’ then largely invented what has become the EU to protect their own interests. They convinced a spineless British government to turn her back on her old friends and allies to cozy up to their new continental chums instead. This decision bought New Zealand agriculture and New Zealand on the whole to its knees for many years.”
Europe is a largest free market in the world so protectionist attack are seriously ridiculous. The French were against the entrance of the UK in Europe and because the UK didn’t sign the Schengen Agreement they are not part of the tax free market. Therefore there is no competitive advantage for the european products compare to NZ one. If they decided to stop buying your product sit’s for other reason and Europe and the French couldn’t be responsible for that.
3. “‘The French’ decided they didn’t want to test their Nuclear weapons in their own very large backyard and came down to set off Nuclear bombs in our back yard instead. ”
Wrong. These pacific islands are fully part of France so it WAS their own backyard
4.”The French had committed an act of war on New Zealand”
Totally agree on that one, however as this boat had transpassed French borders and military restriced aera, a numerous of time, the Frecnh could argue that they did the first ‘act of war’.
5. “he French certainly don’t embrace aerosol deodorants. I will refrain from telling the old joke, “Where do you hide something from a Frenchman? “Under the soap”
No point on mentioning the cliche here….
6.”I did watch the pool game.It was great, there was no cheating.”
6 minutes in the game: long high ball near the NZ line ,Jane and Traille jumped, Traille catch the ball, jane didn’t compete for the ball and tackle Traille in the air: The rugby law says: yellow card! Jane was the last defender so a penalty try could have been awarded….. but the ref decided it wasa touch for NZ…. weired.
38 minutes in the game: Kaino elbow Yachvili. The rugby law says: yellow card, but ref just give a penalty…
I could carry one forever but oh well I have other things to do :-p
sandysview
October 20, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Wow! I totally appreciate your time and effort there ‘Thomas’. Great to see the effort you went to. For the record many Kiwi’s in the RAF in ww2, I’ll read your reference when back at a pc. Thanks again for taking the time to create your comment. Enjoy the Rugby.
Thomas
October 26, 2011 at 9:33 am
“For the record many Kiwi’s in the RAF in ww2″ << I'm not saying the reverse and New Zealand has been a wonderfull help to all the allies on both wars. I just wanted to correct the statement that NZ faught for French liberation twice because this is incorrect.
By the way congrats for your victory, it was a great game and it's not those idiots from the IRB, NZ Herald and other crappy media that could take that away from us the rugby fan.
Taks care,
Thomas
sandysview
October 26, 2011 at 10:20 am
Thanks Thomas. I stand by my point that Kiwis fought for France in both World Wars. While NZ Division did not take part inD-Day etc. There were many Kiwis in RAF flying sorties over France v Luftwaffe and also in British military units. There were also a handful of Kiwis in SOE helping resistance. Most famous being ‘The White Mouse’ Nancy Wake. Anyway this doesnt matter now. Well done to the French for being immense on the night of the Final. Kiwis all had their hearts in their mouths. It was a fantastic occasion and as you say, a shame the dicks at the IRB and various news media have looked to make something negative. I will look forward to seing the All Blacks being able to relax and enjoy the next RWC in 2015 with the monkey off their backs.
Thomas
October 27, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Yes I think the All Blacks are going to be really good for next few years although some of your best players are about to leave so will see.
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Talking about “monkey off their backs”:
NZ: 3 finals, 2 vicories
France: 3 finals, 0 victory (including 2 defeat against the AB), I think the French have 2 or 3 elelphants on their back
I can’t wait for French new coach Philippe Saint-André to start. I have a huge respect for him. He comes from a small town in South of France called Romans sur Isere and this is where, on a foreign exchange trip about 20 years ago, I discovered and fell in love with rugby.
I’ve always be a bit more for France than any other team but now I will be 100% behind them. Allez les bleus!!!